testiranja na živalih

[UG84]

Ja, gledam strani, ampak povečini bo treba po mailu vprašat (glje zgoraj ali na prejšnji strani za vprašanje, ki ga pošljite). Najbolje da vsaka pošlje kak mail firmam na sivi listi (povejte mi, kateri bost eposlali, da označim, da ne bo več ljudi enakemu pošiljalo). Listi se ločita glede na testiranje sestavin.

[Tamarra*]

UG, hvala za črno in sivo listo

[haley]

UG84-se mi je ravno dalo in sem vsem, ki jih imamo trenutno na sivi listo poslala maile glede testiranja sestavin. Jutri pričakujem naval mailov

[UG84]

Sem popravila na listi, da čakamo odgovore.

Punce, jaz se vam opravičujem, da bo tole z listami malo trajalo, ampak trenutno prenavljava dnevno sobo in menjava pohištvo in nekako nima toliko časa. Bo pa, ziher.

[haley]

Evo par odgovorov sem že dobila:

Isadora
Hello
We only have clincically testing and that is on humans. We don’t have any ingredients that involves testing on animals. Not on any product and not ready formulas and nothing. Only human.


Bourjois
I am pleased to be able to report that several years ago we completed our long range programme designed to eliminate testing on animals without compromising in any way the safety and quality of our products and various legislative requirement in this regard.

The results obtained enabled us to cease all animal tests in all phases of
our research and development work as well as in the manufacture of all of our products. This included all tests carried out on our behalf by outside
laboratories.


Clarins
At Clarins, we are leading the crusade to protect animals all over the world. All of the tests concerning the safe use of Clarins products are carried out using an "alternative method" and never on animals. We have made our suppliers comply with our "no animal testing" philosophy when testing their raw materials.

However, we are unable to guarantee that at no stage in their production all our products have been free from this as some regulations require testing of certain ingredients, which are also used for medical purposes that may be used in some Clarins products.

As out of respect and professional etiquette towards clients all over the world we preferred to mention "No animal testing on finished products" in our product communication and advertising.

LVMH
(prov njihovega maila nisem našla, pa sem pisala Guerlain-u)

Since 1989, Guerlain do not perform any test on animals for the products they put on the market, long before the official ban in 2004 in the European Union.

Guerlain believes that ending animal testing is a benefit for all: consumers, animal welfare and industry. LVMH Group, to which Guerlain belongs, played a leading role in the development of alternative methods engaging important funds into the “Fund for Alternatives to Animal Testing” in Washington D.C., as well as, in France, in the Opal program. This approach permitted to Guerlain to guarantee answers to the double demand, consumer safety and respect of animal life.

The cosmetic industry is committed by the European cosmetics directive to stopping animal testing for substances used for cosmetics in acute toxicity studies in March 2009 and in repeated-dose toxicity studies in 2013. Furthermore in 2011, the European Commission will issue a report to assess the progress made to date about validation of alternatives to animal testing and the difficulties encountered, the challenges for 2013 are considerable.
Like we always did, Guerlain, as a responsible industry, respect the European legislation as we respect regulations worldwide.

The development of alternatives methods is a real scientific challenge and Guerlain is committed to continue to make all efforts in order to respect legislation, consumer safety and animal life.

[haley]

Če ima podjetje na spletni strani napisano, da je cruelty free (ima narisanga zajčka) ali pa da ima recimo bdih certifikat...to pomeni, da ne testira ne končnih izdelkov, ne sestavin in tega noben ne počne namesto njih?

So te oznake dobro 'dokazilo'?

[UG84]

jaz bi rekla, da ja. Problem, je, če je npr. v FAQ samo napisano, We do not test our products on animals. Vprašanje so sestavine.

Iz tistega zgoraj bom na belo listo dala Bourjois in Isadora. Pri Clarinsu na sivi listi bom napisala opombo, LVMH pa ni nikjer nič napisal o sestavinah. Jim lahko daš ''reply'' pa napišeš ''Does this mean that LVMH group does not test ingredients for its products on animals and that it does not use animal-tested ingredients from its suppliers?''

Hvala, Haley! :bussi:

[UG84]

NAŠLA CRUELTY FREE ŽVEČILNE GUMIJE!!!

hehe, kakšen bombastičen prvi stavek

Skratka, so čisto novi baje na slovenskem trgu (tega ne vem potrdit, pač je prodajalka tako rekla) imajo jih v trgovini Natura (na koncu Bavarskega dvora) in baje da imajo dober okus. V dveh okusih se jih da dobit. Stanejo cca. 1,5 in jih je 10 v paketku.

Ampak danes se mi je takoooo mudilo, da bom drugič kaj več povedala, ko jih bom tudi sprobala. Iz firbca Žal ne vem ne kako se imenujejo, niti ne najdem na njihov strani da bi jih že imeli gor.

[haley]

jaz bi rekla, da ja. Problem, je, če je npr. v FAQ samo napisano, We do not test our products on animals. Vprašanje so sestavine.

Iz tistega zgoraj bom na belo listo dala Bourjois in Isadora. Pri Clarinsu na sivi listi bom napisala opombo, LVMH pa ni nikjer nič napisal o sestavinah. Jim lahko daš ''reply'' pa napišeš ''Does this mean that LVMH group does not test ingredients for its products on animals and that it does not use animal-tested ingredients from its suppliers?''

Hvala, Haley! :bussi:

Evo sm poslala tole vprašanje nazaj Lvmh.

Drugače mi pa ni problem tole počet. Tudi jaz rada vem kako resnično stvari stojijo Pa s tem še malo angleščino vadim, kar pa tudi ni slabo, ker me v prihodnjih mesecih čakata še dva izpita iz angleškega jezika

[Tamarra*]

NAŠLA CRUELTY FREE ŽVEČILNE GUMIJE!!!

hehe, kakšen bombastičen prvi stavek

Skratka, so čisto novi baje na slovenskem trgu (tega ne vem potrdit, pač je prodajalka tako rekla) imajo jih v trgovini Natura (na koncu Bavarskega dvora) in baje da imajo dober okus. V dveh okusih se jih da dobit. Stanejo cca. 1,5 in jih je 10 v paketku.

Ampak danes se mi je takoooo mudilo, da bom drugič kaj več povedala, ko jih bom tudi sprobala. Iz firbca Žal ne vem ne kako se imenujejo, niti ne najdem na njihov strani da bi jih že imeli gor.

Super Jaz sem še zadnjič spraševala, kako je z mentos žvečilnimi gumiji, pa ni bilo odgovora. - mogoče veš?

[SWEETprinces]

ful ste pridne ene :bussi:

[haley]

^^

[haley]

Odgovor od Deborah:

I can confirm that we are not subscribers to the Help LAV, but I also inform you that our company LEADS NOT TEST ON ANIMALS (our products dermatologically tested using human subjects are healthy and willing to give their availability for use of our cosmetic under medical supervision).
We do not need to write on boxes NOT tested on animals because of the fact NO animal testing is part of philosophy and of ethics of our company but is mainly imposed by the 7th amendment of Directive Cosmetic implemented recently in Italy. We are aware that the new materials are accompanied by certification by the manufacturer indicating NOT to conduct tests on animals (we are numerous in vitro tests that avoid this problem).
We also believe that beauty should not be built on suffering of any living being. Deborah Italia has undertaken in other projects with the World Wildlife Fund -
See details in the site www.deborahgroup.com

[UG84]

OK, tudi Deborah gre na belo, čeravno bi lahko malo manj zakomplicirano napisali.

Tamarra, najbolje, da jim pošlješ mail. Korporacija, čigar blag. znamka je Mentos je Perfetti Van Melle (KLIK).

[SWEETprinces]

prav pomiri me da se nekatera podjetja trudijo...