The Secret - Rhonda Byrne (knjiga)
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taššek - Sramežljivka
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Hej. Pred nekaj časa sem prebrala knjigo the Secret in pogledala dvd. Knjiga me je zelo navdušila in mi dala moč da verjamem v sebe in svoje cilje.
Je mogoče že kdo prebral knjigo ali pa si ogledal dvd.?
Jaz bi jo priporočila vsem saj je res enkratna knjiga ( tudi to je res da ima vsak svoj ukus in gledanje na stvari)
In še link :
http://www.thesecret.tv/
Have a nice day.?
Je mogoče že kdo prebral knjigo ali pa si ogledal dvd.?
Jaz bi jo priporočila vsem saj je res enkratna knjiga ( tudi to je res da ima vsak svoj ukus in gledanje na stvari)
In še link :
http://www.thesecret.tv/
Have a nice day.?
* you are like a dRug to me, like my own personaL brand oF heroin !
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g00fy_qa - Cosmofrik
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To bi se lahko premaknilo med kulturo ...?
Jaz sem prebrala knjigo in pogledala film. Spremeni življenje, če dovoliš, res fenomenalno.
V bistvu me je tako navdušilo, da sem si takoj kupila knjigo. Zdaj pa kroži okrog po mamini službi, ker je tudi ona navdušena nad njo.
Jaz sem prebrala knjigo in pogledala film. Spremeni življenje, če dovoliš, res fenomenalno.
V bistvu me je tako navdušilo, da sem si takoj kupila knjigo. Zdaj pa kroži okrog po mamini službi, ker je tudi ona navdušena nad njo.

As the shadow follows the body,
As we think, so we become.
As we think, so we become.
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porcelain - Kofetarica
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g00fy_qa napisal/-a:To bi se lahko premaknilo med kulturo ...?
Jaz sem prebrala knjigo in pogledala film. Spremeni življenje, če dovoliš, res fenomenalno.
V bistvu me je tako navdušilo, da sem si takoj kupila knjigo. Zdaj pa kroži okrog po mamini službi, ker je tudi ona navdušena nad njo.
podpišem. it changed my life.
.perfect soul, perfect mind, perfect face.. a perfect lie.
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Tamala_mrha - Cosmopsiho
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Zdi se zanimiva zgodba. Si bom izposodila knjigo in jo na morju prebrala, pa bom potem povedala kakšna se mi je zdela. 

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Tammy_De - Cosmofrik
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jo bom jaz tudi prebrala, čeprav se mi zdi, da se bom verjetno strinjala s tem komentarjem, ki sem ga najdla za knjigo:
The Review "They" Don't Want You To Read, March 6, 2007
Catchy review title? Thought so. Robert Cialdini, renowned psychology researcher and author of Influence: The Power of Persuasion (perhaps the best book ever written on the subject) identifies six basic rules employed by politicians, advertisers and scam artists alike to persuade others. Each of them are employed quite adeptly by Rhonda Byrne in this book.
Cialdini's first principle is SCARCITY; people want what's expensive, exculsive, or otherwise attainable. Byrne's mastery of this principle is clearly shown by the very name of the book: The Secret. We all learned this the first week of kindergarten as we felt the jealousy of watching two classmates, hands cupped over ears, sharing a secret out of earshot.
This message is reinforced throughout the book and its advertising campaign which pitches "The Secret" (whatever it actually is) as jealousy-guarded information hoarded by the happy, wealthy and successful. Whenever someone tries convincing you of something, whether it's a way to make enormous sums of money, to lose weight, etc - be wary of when it's pitched as "the knowledge THEY don't want you to have." Think about it - everything from the "secrets that Wall Street doesn't want you to know" to "uncovered - celebrities' secrets to staying young" are phrased not simply to pique your interest but to make you jealous. Appeals to our emotion are far more powerful than appeals to reason, and Byrne demonstrates mastery of this principle throughout "The Secret."
Cialdini's second principle is LIKING. We like those who like us, and in turn, we do business with them. Positive thinking and emotional intelligence has been linked to strong interpersonal relationships, academic and professional success, and good health, but there is a fine line when positive thinking crosses over to unjustified exuberance. Instead of simply noting the substantial benefits of positive thinking (a well-accepted principle which wouldn't sell books), Byrne crosses the line so blatantly that anyone with a modicum of modesty would find it blasphemous.
AUTHORITY is another Cialdini principle, also in play in "The Secret" in quite subtle ways. Another technique which differentiates this book from just another book of positive thinking is the heavy use of quasiscientific language, which gives the impression that the "law of attraction" is (or will become) an accepted scientific principle, just like the law of gravity or the law of attraction of oppositely-charged particles in chemistry. Many people are both intimidated and confused by the authority of science, a fact exploited by manipulators ranging from Byrne to peddlers of magic weight-loss pills.
Since no respected physicist would ever publish a paper on the universality of the "law of attraction," Byrne indirectly seeks experts in other ways. She attributes the success of people ranging from Einstein to Beethoven to adherence of "The Secret," thereby manufacturing experts. After all, if Einstein and Shakespeare mastered "The Secret," who are YOU to question it?
The last two Cialdini principles are CONSISTENCY and SOCIAL PROOF. The success of this book should leave little doubt it will be followed by more (and more expensive) forms of media peddling "The Secret." The audio recordings, weekend seminars, advertising tie-ins, and other follow-up products certain to follow will exploit these two principles. Once people commit themselves to believing happiness will come from "The Secret," they will attribute future successes, whether a promotion or a great new relationship, to adherence to it. Conversely, setbacks will be even more powerfully in committing people to "The Secret," as people will attribute their failures to not living up to "The Secret" (and buying more of Byrne's books). Consistency dictates it will be less painful to buy more books and immerse one's self further into "The Secret" than to accept the whole premise is a quite ridiculous; while not as pernicious as a domineering cult, "The Secret" promises to charge you handsomely for a positive outlook on life.
Byrne's book is problematic on many levels. On it's face, it's a manipulative marketing tool meant to flatter, confuse and deceive. It's also pseudoscience at its best, the last thing we need to encourage in an increasingly technological world which requires healthy skepticism and critical thought. Most damaging, though, is how the book perverts reality by encouraging people to equate a positive outlook on life with a childish, idiotic narcissism. Ayn Rand must be rolling in her grave hearing about the modern manifestation of her objectivist movement reduced to the intellectual equivalent of canned pork.
If you're interested in "The Secret," I highly encourage you to read the book - yeah, READ the book - if for any other reason so not to be manipulated by its brilliant marketing. Read it with a critical eye, with a copy of Cialdini's book in the other hand. You may not learn the secret of happiness, but you WILL learn a lot about manipulation and influence from a master of the subject in Rhonda Byrne.
The Review "They" Don't Want You To Read, March 6, 2007
Catchy review title? Thought so. Robert Cialdini, renowned psychology researcher and author of Influence: The Power of Persuasion (perhaps the best book ever written on the subject) identifies six basic rules employed by politicians, advertisers and scam artists alike to persuade others. Each of them are employed quite adeptly by Rhonda Byrne in this book.
Cialdini's first principle is SCARCITY; people want what's expensive, exculsive, or otherwise attainable. Byrne's mastery of this principle is clearly shown by the very name of the book: The Secret. We all learned this the first week of kindergarten as we felt the jealousy of watching two classmates, hands cupped over ears, sharing a secret out of earshot.
This message is reinforced throughout the book and its advertising campaign which pitches "The Secret" (whatever it actually is) as jealousy-guarded information hoarded by the happy, wealthy and successful. Whenever someone tries convincing you of something, whether it's a way to make enormous sums of money, to lose weight, etc - be wary of when it's pitched as "the knowledge THEY don't want you to have." Think about it - everything from the "secrets that Wall Street doesn't want you to know" to "uncovered - celebrities' secrets to staying young" are phrased not simply to pique your interest but to make you jealous. Appeals to our emotion are far more powerful than appeals to reason, and Byrne demonstrates mastery of this principle throughout "The Secret."
Cialdini's second principle is LIKING. We like those who like us, and in turn, we do business with them. Positive thinking and emotional intelligence has been linked to strong interpersonal relationships, academic and professional success, and good health, but there is a fine line when positive thinking crosses over to unjustified exuberance. Instead of simply noting the substantial benefits of positive thinking (a well-accepted principle which wouldn't sell books), Byrne crosses the line so blatantly that anyone with a modicum of modesty would find it blasphemous.
AUTHORITY is another Cialdini principle, also in play in "The Secret" in quite subtle ways. Another technique which differentiates this book from just another book of positive thinking is the heavy use of quasiscientific language, which gives the impression that the "law of attraction" is (or will become) an accepted scientific principle, just like the law of gravity or the law of attraction of oppositely-charged particles in chemistry. Many people are both intimidated and confused by the authority of science, a fact exploited by manipulators ranging from Byrne to peddlers of magic weight-loss pills.
Since no respected physicist would ever publish a paper on the universality of the "law of attraction," Byrne indirectly seeks experts in other ways. She attributes the success of people ranging from Einstein to Beethoven to adherence of "The Secret," thereby manufacturing experts. After all, if Einstein and Shakespeare mastered "The Secret," who are YOU to question it?
The last two Cialdini principles are CONSISTENCY and SOCIAL PROOF. The success of this book should leave little doubt it will be followed by more (and more expensive) forms of media peddling "The Secret." The audio recordings, weekend seminars, advertising tie-ins, and other follow-up products certain to follow will exploit these two principles. Once people commit themselves to believing happiness will come from "The Secret," they will attribute future successes, whether a promotion or a great new relationship, to adherence to it. Conversely, setbacks will be even more powerfully in committing people to "The Secret," as people will attribute their failures to not living up to "The Secret" (and buying more of Byrne's books). Consistency dictates it will be less painful to buy more books and immerse one's self further into "The Secret" than to accept the whole premise is a quite ridiculous; while not as pernicious as a domineering cult, "The Secret" promises to charge you handsomely for a positive outlook on life.
Byrne's book is problematic on many levels. On it's face, it's a manipulative marketing tool meant to flatter, confuse and deceive. It's also pseudoscience at its best, the last thing we need to encourage in an increasingly technological world which requires healthy skepticism and critical thought. Most damaging, though, is how the book perverts reality by encouraging people to equate a positive outlook on life with a childish, idiotic narcissism. Ayn Rand must be rolling in her grave hearing about the modern manifestation of her objectivist movement reduced to the intellectual equivalent of canned pork.
If you're interested in "The Secret," I highly encourage you to read the book - yeah, READ the book - if for any other reason so not to be manipulated by its brilliant marketing. Read it with a critical eye, with a copy of Cialdini's book in the other hand. You may not learn the secret of happiness, but you WILL learn a lot about manipulation and influence from a master of the subject in Rhonda Byrne.
"Replace the fear of unknown with curiosity"
"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect."
"Sexy is sexy" - Adam Lambert
"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect."
"Sexy is sexy" - Adam Lambert
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Barbie_girl* - Sramežljivka
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- Na forumu od: 11. 6. 2008
js sm zaenkrt gledla sam film, kr knjige ne premorejo v nobeni knjižnci tle okol ... tko d čakam še d jo dobim:)
drgč pa mi je dau film kr mist ... in iz moje izkušnje, k sm jo mela pred časom, lahka sam rečem, da čist drži tist zakon privlačnosti v mislih. tko kokr misliš, tko bo. in če se tega zavedaš, pol si na pravi poti;)
drgč pa mi je dau film kr mist ... in iz moje izkušnje, k sm jo mela pred časom, lahka sam rečem, da čist drži tist zakon privlačnosti v mislih. tko kokr misliš, tko bo. in če se tega zavedaš, pol si na pravi poti;)
It's the hardest thing I ever have to do, to walk away from you, when I wanna hold you...
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pink-bubble - Sramežljivka
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nism še prebrala knjige ampak mam željo. upam da kmal pridem do nje.
pa sj...to ni nič takega...to se že ja ve da misli vplivajo na to kar se potem zgodi?..če misliš pozitivno se ti dogajajo dobre stvari..negativno pa slabe..
drgač pa poskušam js to prakticirat..pa ne deluje..si rečem neki da bo tak..in si pol v mislih cel dan govorim da bo tak...ampak pol vseen ni tak. kaj to pomeni da premalo vrjamem v to kar si govorim?:)
pa sj...to ni nič takega...to se že ja ve da misli vplivajo na to kar se potem zgodi?..če misliš pozitivno se ti dogajajo dobre stvari..negativno pa slabe..
drgač pa poskušam js to prakticirat..pa ne deluje..si rečem neki da bo tak..in si pol v mislih cel dan govorim da bo tak...ampak pol vseen ni tak. kaj to pomeni da premalo vrjamem v to kar si govorim?:)
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purple_rain - Cosmopsiho
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Mislim, da to ni mišljeno, da se "čez noč" neki zgodi, je bolj napotek kako razmišljat za malj bolj oddaljeno prihodnost.pink-bubble napisal/-a:drgač pa poskušam js to prakticirat..pa ne deluje..si rečem neki da bo tak..in si pol v mislih cel dan govorim da bo tak...ampak pol vseen ni tak. kaj to pomeni da premalo vrjamem v to kar si govorim?:)
Sicer je pa tud men ravnokar bila priporočena knjiga..bo za poiskat in prebrat.
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Smreka - Kofetarica
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- Na forumu od: 16. 3. 2005
Knjiga je sicer velika uspešnica, ampak nič novega. Že pokojni Martin Kojc je davnega leta 1935 napisal Učbenik življenja, ki ima tako vsebino kot Secret. In ogromno avtorjev po tem je še veliko pisalo o taki tematiki.
Saj ne rečem da je kaj narobe s knjigo, ni pa dejansko nič preteresljivo novega - bolj reklamna poteza kot kaj drugega - tisti, ki jih take stvari zanimajo, jim to ne more biti ne vem kakšna novost.
Saj ne rečem da je kaj narobe s knjigo, ni pa dejansko nič preteresljivo novega - bolj reklamna poteza kot kaj drugega - tisti, ki jih take stvari zanimajo, jim to ne more biti ne vem kakšna novost.
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g00fy_qa - Cosmofrik
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- Na forumu od: 22. 8. 2006
^^Ja saj ni novost. Je pa lepo zapakirano in povzeto znanje. Navsezadnje je že Buda o tem učil.
Verjetno se gre za tanek sloj pozitivnega mišljenja, ki prekriva gmoto negativnega, to pa ne deluje. Torej o nečem samo 'misliš', vendar v to nisi 'prepričana'. Deluje samo, če v nekaj res verjameš. Torej da VEŠ in ne da VERJAMEŠ. Poskusi na bolj oddaljenih ciljih, ali pa takih, ki časovno niso nujno omejeni.
pink-bubble napisal/-a:drgač pa poskušam js to prakticirat..pa ne deluje..si rečem neki da bo tak..in si pol v mislih cel dan govorim da bo tak...ampak pol vseen ni tak. kaj to pomeni da premalo vrjamem v to kar si govorim?:)
Verjetno se gre za tanek sloj pozitivnega mišljenja, ki prekriva gmoto negativnega, to pa ne deluje. Torej o nečem samo 'misliš', vendar v to nisi 'prepričana'. Deluje samo, če v nekaj res verjameš. Torej da VEŠ in ne da VERJAMEŠ. Poskusi na bolj oddaljenih ciljih, ali pa takih, ki časovno niso nujno omejeni.
As the shadow follows the body,
As we think, so we become.
As we think, so we become.
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sokolja - Debatorica
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- Na forumu od: 10. 11. 2007
- Kraj: notranjska
prebrala jo je moja prjatlca in potem sem še en tedn mogla poslušat o tej knjigi
tako da po tem sodeč je res dobra. pol so jo prebrale še ene sošolke in vsem je bla blazno dobra in vse so začele pozitivno razmišlat - in nevem kaj so dosegle s tem. nisem jo še prebrala ampak jo vsekakor bom.

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študentka20 - Kofetarica
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- Na forumu od: 10. 9. 2007
kaj pa knjiga Zakon privlačnosti?? je že brala katera? teta jo je,in res deluje. jaz pa jo danes začnem! 

življenje je igra,igraj jo,
življenje je izziv,sprejmi ga,
življenje je iskanje,razišči ga,
življenje so sanje,uresniči jih. (sai baba)
življenje je izziv,sprejmi ga,
življenje je iskanje,razišči ga,
življenje so sanje,uresniči jih. (sai baba)
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WhiTe_ŁaDy - Sramežljivka
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- Na forumu od: 18. 8. 2008
- Kraj: Maribor
legenda je... škoda da to tak malo ljudi ve
v glavnem meni je življenje spremenil film pa knjiga... fajn je ko je v knjigi še boljše razloženo

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Miss September - Debatorica
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- Na forumu od: 7. 7. 2008
Js sem pogledala že film in mi je res všeč. Mam ga namen pogledat vsak mesec enkrat
Te knjige sicer še nisem prebrala ker niti nisem vedla zanjo, da obstaja (do zdaj), trenutno pa berem Zakon privlačnosti.

Te knjige sicer še nisem prebrala ker niti nisem vedla zanjo, da obstaja (do zdaj), trenutno pa berem Zakon privlačnosti.
Worship me or walk away.
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Lucia Klasinc - Sramežljivka
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Knjige še sicer nisem prebrala, sem si pa ogledala film. Tudi meni je všeč predvsem to, da te spodbudi k ciljem, ukrepom, da postaneš bolj optimističen. Mislim pa, da ima vse to eno veliko pomanjkljivost - ljudje mislijo, da imajo pravico želeti si karkoli. No, v bistvu jo res imajo.. ampak pri vsaki stvari velja naravni zakon; recimo, če bo tvoja želja izhajala iz pohlepa, požrežnosti ali lenobe ... se ti bo to slej kot prej nekako vrnilo. Potem pa se nekateri sprašujejo - zakaj se je pa pa to ravno meni zgodilo?
Mislim, da bi tudi morali še bolj izpostaviti to plat - predvsem v filmu, ki ga verjetno pogleda več ljudi.
Mislim, da bi tudi morali še bolj izpostaviti to plat - predvsem v filmu, ki ga verjetno pogleda več ljudi.

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